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I've just read The Awakened Brain by Lisa Miller which is basically saying the same thing as this - that the remedy we need is often spiritual, but talks a lot about the neuroscience etc. backing this up too.

I think there is a really interesting question of how to provide spirituality for the non-religious. It's interesting seeing the different ways that different types of therapy trying to do that.

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Fascinating, I will definitely check that book out. Very grateful to people taking a scientific lens to these questions. And agree, one of the things I appreciate most about certain somatic therapies is how much they incorporate elements of this. The next episode is actually with someone on somatics so grateful for you prompting this specific question. Do you have any favorite therapies or other on-ramps for this?

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Sorry only just seen this!

I am definitely not an expert on therapies, but I've noticed that Internal Family Systems seems to have a spiritual component in the concept of Self that is almost hidden in secular terminology.

It's also interesting how things like yoga, secular Buddhism somehow make the spiritual more approachable. I think if you're not religious then spiritual ideas from other cultures don't have the same baggage. You can take the bits you like and leave the bits that you don't more easily. For me Taoist ideas (and practising Tai Chi) have been useful in that regard.

Another place where I have seen spiritual language is in the world of creativity and the idea of 'channeling the divine'. The Artist's Way is an interesting book and is in its own way a form of therapy.

In terms of somatic therapies, I've also heard Feldenkrais teachers talk about Feldenkrais as being almost spiritual, and likewise for Alexander Technique teachers, even though I don't think either Feldenkrais or FM Alexander mentioned anything related to spirituality. I'm sure the same might be true of other types of somatics.

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very cool to hear some places you've found this. Your example of the artist way definitely resonates with my experience of it. It reminds me of when I first read Christopher Alexander's work and discovered that there was a way to even view architecture and interior design as "having spirit" or channeling something bigger.

agree re Feldenkrais and AT. it makes curious on how much Moshe related to spirituality specifically. gonna ask one of my mentors who trained with him for any thoughts. appreciate all your perspectives

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